Uber and APOD offer great start deal to ex-Defence

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Posted by Brian Hartigan

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5 thoughts on “Uber and APOD offer great start deal to ex-Defence

  • 23/10/2015 at 12:23 am

    That is just rediculous, Brian. Have you done any research at all?
    Each state and territory has their own legislation for public passenger services, including taxis. In the ACT, the government own all of the licences and they lease them out on an annual basis. The prices can go up and down and people have the option to hand the lease back. It would have been easy for the government to reduce the lease prices to encourage Uber drivers to lease licences. It will be interesting to see how they police that.
    In Queensland, the licences are sold as perpetual licences by the government. They are an investment, like a property.
    In Queensland, it is illegal to provide a taxi service (a paid fare, booked and dispatched electronically) in a vehicle other than a taxi. A taxi must be attached to a Taxi Service Licence. The vehicle that is used as a taxi must be identifiable as a taxi and affiliated with one of the approved taxi booking companies, either Yellow Cabs or Black and White Cabs. The vehicles must be equipped with a meter, security cameras and gps tracking. Safety and service is priority. The driver must be properly licenced with criminal and traffic history checks, daily licence checks and be answerable to their operators and booking companies (that hold Operator Accrediations) for their service provided as professional drivers.
    The drivers of Uber vehicles in Queensland have been fined for operating unlicenced taxi services, being that they don’t hold a Taxi Service Licence and a “T” plate. The drivers in NSW have had their cars impounded. If you take a paying passenger in your private vehicle in Queensland or NSW, then you are breaking the law. And you will probably not be insured because you are providing a commercial service with your private vehicle, so you are at risk of not being covered if you injure someone in an accident.
    How is that ‘not strictly illegal’?
    Regardless of what Uber and their awesome PR and marketing teams say, driving for Uber is illegal, as the law stands today. So, regardless of the outcomes of the pending review on the industry, despite the fact that it is a popular way to illegally earn money, the law is the law.
    Uber continue to operate in Queensland, despite being issued with a cease and desist order in mid 2014. They continue to advertise and recruit drivers, offering incentives just like the one in your story. They continue to pay the fines for the drivers. They mock our laws and the authorities.
    Have a look at Uber and how they operate all around the world. They continually disobey the laws and regulations for their own gain. Ha! Ride-sharing! What part of it exactly, is sharing? Uber provide an app and take everyone’s details (They have no regulatory body, by the way. You should check the t’s&c’s on what you agreed to when you signed up). They use the driver’s car, fuel, wear and tear to provide a service that they currently take 20% for, all completely unlicenced and unregulated.
    Uber have no regard for the laws of any country that they have entered. They show complete disregard for the authorities.
    I believe that if someone reading your story was actually informed about the situation, that they would at least do some research before signing up for easy money with Uber. Especially the readers of this column who are all respectable, law abiding citizens.

    • 23/10/2015 at 8:46 am

      Hi Rebecca. You are obviously passionate and knowledgeable about Uber and the taxi industry – perhaps you’d care to say how/why?
      As for me and my research – you are right, I did very little on this topic, except after the fact when you and a couple of others (on Facebook) took me to task. That said, I am a former (NSW) Taxi driver myself – and a law-abiding citizen who takes responsibility for his own law abiding. As such I stand by everything I said earlier.
      I’m pretty passionate too, about my right to run a news-based web site. And I have no desire to get into a war of words with you – so I won’t.

      • 23/10/2015 at 11:42 pm

        I hear what you are saying Brian.
        Can I suggest to you and your editor, who wish to ‘cover your arses’, that you make Rebecca Rutherford, Jessica May and Michael von Berg aware of the legal situation here. Perhaps it will change their views on, and associations with, Uber. Other than in the ACT, where as you pointed out, it is legal. 😊

  • 21/10/2015 at 10:44 pm

    I can not believe that this advertisement has been allowed to be published! Encouraging law abiding citizens and service people to break the law is just going to far, Brian Hartigan. Driving an Uber vehicle is illegal in Queensland and in NSW.

    • 21/10/2015 at 11:43 pm

      Hi Rebecca. This was not an advertisement (it was not paid for by anyone) – it is a news story – a legitimate reporting of the fact that Uber has done a deal with APOD etc to offer a service to a CONTACT-focused audience, who live all around Australia (not just Qld and NSW). There is nothing illegal or immoral or objectionable in the story itself as far as I am concerned.
      Secondly, however, to say “Driving an Uber vehicle is illegal in Queensland and in NSW” is not strictly true. The actual law actually says that it is illegal to drive a passenger vehicle for reward without a proper licence, and that law was made before Uber was invented.
      The ACT Government recently changed their laws to specifically make Uber legal, and I would hope the other states would eventually see sense and follow suit.
      It is another fact that there have been more than 1,000,000 Uber rides undertaken in Sydney in the past 12 months. So, I think it’s pretty obvious that the law needs to catch up with the realities of modern technology.
      I would also like to say that I curate a news blog and I report what I judge to be legitimate and relevant news items, such as that above. I am not a supporter of the ‘Nanny State’ and as such I believe it is every adult Australian’s own responsibility to know what they are getting into when they sign a contract with any company or entity in any state or territory in Australia. It is not up to me to check many and varied nuances of law pertaining to a news story before I publish it.
      I am simply a ‘news’ reporter who reported a piece of news. I did not “encourage” anyone to break the law. If you want to be picky about such things, please be advised that you actually broke the law of defamation by publicly accusing me of something I plainly did not do.
      But I won’t hold it against you 🙂

      Does anyone else have anything to say on any aspect of this story, or Rebecca’s or my comments?


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